1 00:00:04,750 --> 00:00:14,050 Greetings, this is Pastor David Bass at New Geneva Orthodox Presbyterian Church with a moment of truth, where we challenge you to think through an important issue of life and faith. 2 00:00:14,490 --> 00:00:27,730 Today, I want to ask you, is the family church, the online church, and the home church a real biblical church in the true New Testament sense of church? 3 00:00:27,730 --> 00:00:36,070 But before we delve into this subject, let me say that we at New Geneva have appreciated your listening to our broadcast from week to week. 4 00:00:36,250 --> 00:00:41,210 I've loved speaking with many of you over the years, meeting you as you have visited our church. 5 00:00:41,530 --> 00:00:52,869 What we have proposed to do is sponsor a time to meet and fellowship with you during the course of the year, and we call it a spaghetti fellowship dinner that we will have on the last Wednesday of every month at 5 p.m. 6 00:00:52,869 --> 00:01:02,890 Unfortunately, we will not be able to do this as we had planned this coming Wednesday, January 25, owing to a family commitment that I have on that day. 7 00:01:03,030 --> 00:01:11,390 But we will reschedule that spaghetti fellowship dinner for Wednesday, February 22nd at 5 p.m. here at the church. 8 00:01:11,510 --> 00:01:15,349 So please set aside this date on your calendar. 9 00:01:15,349 --> 00:01:25,969 Now, back to our topic, is the family church, the home church, or the online church a real biblical church in the true New Testament sense of church? 10 00:01:26,049 --> 00:01:39,109 Many people have become so disenchanted with the organized church that consists of denominations that they have sought out alternatives, which they feel better reflect the New Testament model. 11 00:01:39,629 --> 00:01:42,049 Many of their critiques have a measure of truth to them. 12 00:01:42,049 --> 00:01:43,069 Let me point them out. 13 00:01:43,489 --> 00:01:54,370 For example, many denominations have wandered far astray from the simple gospel message of salvation by grace through faith in the Savior, our Lord Jesus Christ. 14 00:01:54,370 --> 00:02:05,590 Instead, these denominations have pursued other agendas like social change or world peace and ecumenical relations with other world religions. 15 00:02:05,590 --> 00:02:17,710 Also, many denominational churches have lost the feeling of fellowship in church life with endless programs and worship services that mechanically run through the motions and then send everybody home. 16 00:02:19,030 --> 00:02:33,370 Many denominations and churches also have an edifice complex, as it's called, an edifice complex instead of an edifice complex, an edifice complex in which they spend many millions of dollars on buildings and grounds that could otherwise go to ministry. 17 00:02:33,370 --> 00:02:47,650 Also, many denominations are top-heavy with officials and leaders with fancy titles and armies of bureaucrats that are out of touch with the person in the pew, and they waste countless hours and dollars shuffling paper and telling others what to do. 18 00:02:47,650 --> 00:02:56,129 Now, these criticisms are certainly legitimate in instance after instance, and I've made some of those same criticisms myself over the years. 19 00:02:56,629 --> 00:03:04,189 To answer them, the family church, the home church, and the online church have offered their model of ministry. 20 00:03:04,689 --> 00:03:07,289 Well, what are these models, and how do they function? 21 00:03:07,569 --> 00:03:11,870 And more importantly, how do they measure up to the New Testament model of the church? 22 00:03:11,870 --> 00:03:23,069 First, there is the family church, and here, the father and parent feel that the family, with however many children may be a part, is sufficient for New Testament biblical church worship. 23 00:03:23,689 --> 00:03:27,830 And mostly, this is done in the home on Sunday or perhaps on another day of the week even. 24 00:03:28,449 --> 00:03:34,289 Generally, the father leads in worship, teaching and leading in prayer, though others in the family may also participate. 25 00:03:34,289 --> 00:03:51,610 Now, many families in the patriarchal movement, a whole separate topic we could deal with, many families in the patriarchal movement, which sees the family patriarch, that is the eldest father, as priest of the family, and they have adopted this family church model. 26 00:03:52,110 --> 00:03:54,110 There is also the online church, however. 27 00:03:54,729 --> 00:04:04,090 Here, some Christians have begun to take advantage of cyber technology and networked with other Christians to gather in cyberspace for worship. 28 00:04:04,289 --> 00:04:19,629 And though there are hundreds of internet churches available online, the term internet church is generally reserved for churches that have a majority of its members meet, connect, or congregate by way or use of the internet, where religious services are conducted through internet technology. 29 00:04:19,629 --> 00:04:26,509 Well, it consists primarily of a public website or maybe an interactive space on a public website or social network. 30 00:04:26,610 --> 00:04:34,129 And sometimes, they are extensions of existing brick-and-mortar churches that merely offer this alternative to their regular services. 31 00:04:34,290 --> 00:04:44,829 But increasingly, the online church is taking its place as a permanent alternative to gathering in a mutual space and time for physical corporate worship of believers. 32 00:04:44,829 --> 00:04:48,149 And then there is, of course, the house church. 33 00:04:48,269 --> 00:05:02,550 And presently, this is the more popular model, offering greater fellowship than the other two models, while at the same time preserving the egalitarian, decentralized atmosphere that's cherished by those seeking alternatives to the traditional church. 34 00:05:02,550 --> 00:05:15,189 In the house church model, building upon its namesake, the house church is generally a number of families and individuals who meet together in members' homes for worship, fellowship, and teaching. 35 00:05:15,769 --> 00:05:20,629 Now, advocates of home churches harken back to the romantic days of the book of Acts. 36 00:05:20,629 --> 00:05:23,509 They point out that this is how the early church did it. 37 00:05:23,850 --> 00:05:31,949 For example, in Acts chapter 2, day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts. 38 00:05:32,009 --> 00:05:40,329 Also, every day in the temple and from house to house, they did not cease teaching and preaching that the Christ is Jesus, from Acts 5. 39 00:05:40,430 --> 00:05:49,389 Or in Acts 20, Paul said, I did not shrink from declaring to you anything that was profitable and teaching you in public and from house to house. 40 00:05:49,389 --> 00:06:00,569 Well, they say, these advocates, with virtually all of Christian worship taking place in the homes of believers, wouldn't it be biblical to return to this simple apostolic model? 41 00:06:01,110 --> 00:06:06,350 Well, these and other similar arguments try to make the case for home churches. 42 00:06:06,709 --> 00:06:12,230 For example, instead of ordained, seminary-trained pastors and teachers with built-in biases to the Bible, 43 00:06:12,370 --> 00:06:19,129 the advocate of the home church says, we in the home churches teach one another out of the Bible without any preconceived notions. 44 00:06:19,389 --> 00:06:22,290 This is a preconceived notion in and of itself, though, however. 45 00:06:23,069 --> 00:06:27,670 We only teach what the Bible says, they would say, but of course, that's a whole other lesson, too. 46 00:06:28,129 --> 00:06:34,449 And they also say, instead of top-down authority structure dictated by bishops and elders and pastors and deacons, 47 00:06:34,870 --> 00:06:39,089 we in the home church choose our leaders by how we see God has gifted them. 48 00:06:39,629 --> 00:06:41,769 Leaders come to the fore naturally, they say. 49 00:06:41,769 --> 00:06:52,230 They also say, our costs in the home church movement are considerably lower than traditional brick-and-mortar churches that fund buildings and pastoral staffs and denominational headquarters. 50 00:06:52,930 --> 00:06:56,889 We in the home church movement thus have more resources for actual ministry. 51 00:06:57,329 --> 00:07:03,170 These are the various stronger arguments that home church advocates bring forward for their movement. 52 00:07:03,170 --> 00:07:12,649 But we must ask, I in particular must ask, how well do these arguments hold up to the scrutiny of the Bible and the history of the church? 53 00:07:12,910 --> 00:07:14,089 I must ask this. 54 00:07:14,550 --> 00:07:16,410 Four concerns that I have. 55 00:07:16,470 --> 00:07:24,550 First, family churches, online churches, and home churches fail to conform to the New Testament description of churches. 56 00:07:25,329 --> 00:07:31,689 Yes, family churches, online churches, and home churches fail to conform to the New Testament description of churches. 57 00:07:31,689 --> 00:07:40,250 And sometimes we get the impression that the first Christians enjoyed a pure fellowship, blissfully free from the suffocating structure of the institutional church. 58 00:07:40,550 --> 00:07:43,589 The rule that governed them was the rule of love, of course. 59 00:07:44,009 --> 00:07:51,449 Well, certainly the book of Acts does describe a wonderful spirit-wrought harmony and joyful fellowship among the initial converts to Christ. 60 00:07:51,610 --> 00:07:53,430 This is documented in Acts chapter 2. 61 00:07:53,949 --> 00:07:59,850 It's hard to picture them at a congregational meeting, for example, debating among themselves the finer points of Robert's Rules of Orders. 62 00:07:59,910 --> 00:08:00,730 We will grant this. 63 00:08:00,730 --> 00:08:08,910 But at the same time, the New Testament does show how the Lord gave to the early church a definite order and organization. 64 00:08:09,689 --> 00:08:14,949 Yes, the New Testament also demonstrates a definite order and organization. 65 00:08:15,870 --> 00:08:21,490 Presbyterians and Baptists and Episcopalians and other structured church bodies may disagree on the fundamental shape of that order, 66 00:08:21,490 --> 00:08:27,129 but we all agree that in the early church there was, in fact, an organized system of church government. 67 00:08:27,730 --> 00:08:30,870 First, the church had an appointed and acknowledged leadership. 68 00:08:31,550 --> 00:08:33,690 The ascended Jesus gave leaders to the church. 69 00:08:33,789 --> 00:08:34,269 He did. 70 00:08:34,450 --> 00:08:39,289 Apostles, prophets, evangelists, and pastors and teachers, as Ephesians chapter 4 articulates. 71 00:08:39,909 --> 00:08:43,929 And Paul told Titus, very important, Paul told Titus, as part of his assignment, 72 00:08:43,929 --> 00:08:49,590 to put what remained into order, that is, to appoint elders in every town. 73 00:08:50,110 --> 00:08:58,629 In Acts chapter 6, in a very orderly fashion, men were chosen and appointed to assist with distributing food to widows in the church. 74 00:08:59,190 --> 00:09:01,009 They were the first deacons, they were. 75 00:09:01,009 --> 00:09:07,590 And when Paul greeted the Philippians, he included the overseers and deacons that were serving there in Philippians chapter 1. 76 00:09:08,169 --> 00:09:15,789 Well, surely, if the Lord Jesus Christ considered ordained leadership to be incidental, as the home church movement does, 77 00:09:16,309 --> 00:09:19,990 ordained leadership incidental to the health and well-being of his people, 78 00:09:20,009 --> 00:09:24,090 or merely an optional accessory to the church, he would not have provided for them, 79 00:09:24,450 --> 00:09:27,009 insisted on them in every New Testament congregation. 80 00:09:27,009 --> 00:09:33,970 The first Christians were commanded to obey your leaders and submit to them, Hebrews 13 and 17, 81 00:09:34,549 --> 00:09:41,350 and also to respect those who labor among you and who are over you in the Lord and admonish you, 82 00:09:41,610 --> 00:09:43,990 in 1 Thessalonians chapter 5, verse 12. 83 00:09:44,389 --> 00:09:51,929 What these commands presuppose is that in some way, beyond mere common consent or unspoken agreement, 84 00:09:51,929 --> 00:09:59,490 as it is in the home church movement, that beyond this, certain men were set apart and acknowledged as church leaders. 85 00:10:00,210 --> 00:10:05,129 Also, the worship of the church necessitated some degree of order and structure, too. 86 00:10:05,830 --> 00:10:07,690 We get liturgy from this idea. 87 00:10:08,149 --> 00:10:09,629 Who would teach and who would preach? 88 00:10:09,889 --> 00:10:13,149 Who would decide who would be baptized and who would do the baptizing? 89 00:10:13,610 --> 00:10:16,230 How was the Lord's Supper to be administered and to whom? 90 00:10:16,230 --> 00:10:21,049 Well, certainly, informal agreement was not sufficient for handling these matters. 91 00:10:21,909 --> 00:10:28,529 If worship was to be done decently and in order, then some formal organization had to exist to maintain that order. 92 00:10:29,070 --> 00:10:32,389 We insist that we are the direct descendants of this order. 93 00:10:33,470 --> 00:10:39,789 Also, the Bible's several provisions for church discipline assume a structure of authority in the church. 94 00:10:39,789 --> 00:10:45,009 If you don't have church discipline and structure for it, then you don't have a church, dear believer. 95 00:10:45,009 --> 00:10:49,070 However, church discipline requires some provisions for due process. 96 00:10:49,429 --> 00:10:55,750 It's impossible to conceive how church discipline can be carried out fairly and consistently in the absence of recognized leadership. 97 00:10:56,090 --> 00:11:01,669 That is, without church membership, too, and without some rules ensuring a just proceeding. 98 00:11:02,289 --> 00:11:06,470 In the book of Acts, the Holy Spirit, who in spectacular fashion brought mass conversions to Christ, 99 00:11:06,610 --> 00:11:12,350 also in a less dramatic but no less significant work, also brought organization to the church. 100 00:11:12,350 --> 00:11:17,309 In chapter 15 of Acts, when there was a sharp disagreement among believers concerning circumcision, 101 00:11:17,730 --> 00:11:25,210 the apostles and elders, in verse 22, the apostles and elders held a council in Jerusalem to adjudicate the matter. 102 00:11:25,610 --> 00:11:28,210 Their decision was binding, too, on all the churches. 103 00:11:28,889 --> 00:11:33,789 This requires, indeed, what we have in our modern form, church membership. 104 00:11:34,029 --> 00:11:40,269 Again, we see the presence and activity of acknowledged authorities and discernible structure in the church. 105 00:11:40,269 --> 00:11:49,990 So, the churches in the New Testament had a definite structure, a structure given by Christ himself, in Ephesians chapter 4, for example. 106 00:11:50,610 --> 00:11:58,809 On the other hand, by their very nature, home churches, home churches lack ordained leadership and formal organization. 107 00:11:58,809 --> 00:12:05,649 Although the early church had elders and deacons, home churches have no provisions for ordaining such. 108 00:12:05,950 --> 00:12:10,649 The organization and structure necessary for faithful church discipline is lacking, too. 109 00:12:11,029 --> 00:12:16,950 In this way, home churches fall short of the biblical norm for Christian congregations. 110 00:12:17,210 --> 00:12:19,549 They are not New Testament churches in this regard. 111 00:12:20,250 --> 00:12:24,169 Now, I don't deny that Christians may be blessed by the fellowship that they enjoy in a home church. 112 00:12:24,169 --> 00:12:29,789 They may love the people in their group, and they may receive edifying teaching, but the question must be asked. 113 00:12:29,889 --> 00:12:36,929 If the structure of New Testament churches is normative, and if that structure included officers and provisions for church discipline, 114 00:12:37,269 --> 00:12:43,330 then if we are not involved in churches that seek to mirror, in some meaningful way, New Testament churches, 115 00:12:44,070 --> 00:12:50,169 are we being as faithful as we should when it comes to our relationship to the body of Christ? 116 00:12:50,169 --> 00:12:55,690 Are we being faithful in house churches, or online churches, or family churches? 117 00:12:55,789 --> 00:12:58,149 The obvious answer comes back, no, we are not. 118 00:12:58,970 --> 00:13:04,210 If you are in a home church, or an online church, or a family church, let me ask pointedly, 119 00:13:04,409 --> 00:13:07,090 who are the church leaders you are called to obey? 120 00:13:08,009 --> 00:13:11,950 Were they made leaders by others, or were they self-appointed? 121 00:13:13,190 --> 00:13:14,909 Danger, yellow flag. 122 00:13:14,909 --> 00:13:22,330 If they wished to exercise church discipline with you, is their authority one that you have formally submitted to as well? 123 00:13:22,450 --> 00:13:25,649 If they were being unfair, how would you appeal all of these things? 124 00:13:25,750 --> 00:13:27,450 Well, this brings me to my second concern. 125 00:13:28,029 --> 00:13:37,509 My second concern is that the family church, the online church, and the home church are more vulnerable to poor or even abusive leadership. 126 00:13:37,509 --> 00:13:44,289 As we are sadly reminded on a regular basis by the news, leadership failures can plague any church of any kind. 127 00:13:44,669 --> 00:13:46,490 And I readily acknowledge this. 128 00:13:47,009 --> 00:13:54,070 No church structure can guarantee the full protection of God's flock from leaders who are incompetent, shepherds, or even hurtful to the sheep. 129 00:13:54,889 --> 00:14:01,289 Who leads and what makes a qualified leader is manifestly a matter of great importance to Christ. 130 00:14:01,289 --> 00:14:07,690 In both 1 Timothy and in Titus, Paul lays down certain qualifications for elders, doesn't he? 131 00:14:07,769 --> 00:14:08,429 You know these. 132 00:14:09,029 --> 00:14:16,289 And Peter, knowing the inherent danger of heavy-handed leadership in the church, warns elders not to domineer over those in their charge, 133 00:14:16,350 --> 00:14:19,970 but to be examples to the flock in 1 Peter 5, 1-4. 134 00:14:20,129 --> 00:14:25,970 In fact, we even see in the Bible a certain circumspection regarding church leadership. 135 00:14:26,509 --> 00:14:27,610 James 3 says, 136 00:14:27,610 --> 00:14:29,570 Not many of you should become teachers. 137 00:14:29,570 --> 00:14:31,190 And 1 Timothy 5 says, 138 00:14:31,509 --> 00:14:34,490 Do not be hasty in laying on of hands. 139 00:14:35,370 --> 00:14:39,710 Well then, given the New Testament caution concerning church leadership, 140 00:14:40,169 --> 00:14:44,090 the character of men who are to lead and the manner in which they are to lead, 141 00:14:44,169 --> 00:14:48,669 a church must take great care in how it selects, trains, and tests her potential leaders. 142 00:14:48,850 --> 00:14:52,850 But is this possible without some formal process in place, dear listener? 143 00:14:53,549 --> 00:14:55,929 What is more, in a formal church structure, 144 00:14:55,929 --> 00:15:01,789 there are, or at least should be, a mechanism in place that ensures some accountability for leaders, 145 00:15:01,929 --> 00:15:05,929 accountability for leaders, which is not present in home churches. 146 00:15:06,629 --> 00:15:10,289 I know that that is the case, however, in Presbyterian churches. 147 00:15:10,289 --> 00:15:11,970 There is definite accountability. 148 00:15:12,590 --> 00:15:13,389 I am accountable. 149 00:15:13,750 --> 00:15:15,610 Myself, Pastor David Bass, 150 00:15:15,730 --> 00:15:19,610 I am accountable to my elders and to the men at Presbytery. 151 00:15:19,610 --> 00:15:24,629 If a church member has a complaint about the leadership, about me, well, he will be heard. 152 00:15:25,070 --> 00:15:29,850 He may even bring it to the Presbytery if he believes the elders have not fairly handled his complaint. 153 00:15:30,590 --> 00:15:32,470 And even then, there is a further court. 154 00:15:32,970 --> 00:15:35,090 If he is still not satisfied with the Presbytery, 155 00:15:35,169 --> 00:15:41,330 he can appeal all the way to General Assembly, the larger body in the Presbyterian system. 156 00:15:41,330 --> 00:15:44,990 Well, this provision of accountability is a biblical principle. 157 00:15:45,490 --> 00:15:48,269 It's not the invention of spirit-quenching church bureaucrats. 158 00:15:48,409 --> 00:15:54,230 No, Paul gives explicit directions on how charges against elders are to be handled in 1 Timothy 5. 159 00:15:55,289 --> 00:16:02,970 Well, underlying these formal constraints against poor or abusive leadership is the biblical understanding of human sin, too. 160 00:16:03,330 --> 00:16:07,429 Even otherwise, godly men may overstep their bounds once in a position of authority, 161 00:16:07,429 --> 00:16:10,850 or they may have certain flaws that render them unfit for leadership. 162 00:16:11,230 --> 00:16:17,370 And my concern is that in an informal home church that lacks accepted provisions governing leadership 163 00:16:17,370 --> 00:16:20,169 and any formal accountability for leaders, 164 00:16:20,490 --> 00:16:24,409 the possibility is increased of the wrong people becoming leaders. 165 00:16:24,570 --> 00:16:28,169 You may have experienced this already, or you smell something wrong, 166 00:16:28,269 --> 00:16:31,809 or you know something is wrong with the leadership in your home church already. 167 00:16:31,809 --> 00:16:36,250 Leaders may emerge based on the strength of their personality or their charisma, 168 00:16:36,250 --> 00:16:40,210 or maybe based on their knowledge of scripture or ability to teach. 169 00:16:40,409 --> 00:16:45,730 They may be natural leaders, but they may also not possess the biblical qualifications 170 00:16:45,730 --> 00:16:51,190 or even the character to lead in a way that is humble and not self-seeking. 171 00:16:51,470 --> 00:16:54,990 There's too many self-seeking leaders in churches all across the country, 172 00:16:54,990 --> 00:16:59,190 even in home churches, online churches, and family churches. 173 00:16:59,190 --> 00:17:05,190 Well, my third concern is that the family church, the online church, and the home church 174 00:17:05,190 --> 00:17:09,589 may rob believers of the resources of the broader church. 175 00:17:09,970 --> 00:17:12,609 Oh, yes, very narrow these churches become. 176 00:17:13,029 --> 00:17:17,029 Most likely in a home church or an online church or family church, 177 00:17:17,130 --> 00:17:20,369 you will not enjoy the services of a trained pastor and preacher. 178 00:17:20,470 --> 00:17:22,829 Again, at the risk of sounding self-serving, I admit this, 179 00:17:23,069 --> 00:17:26,430 it seems to me that Christians will be better off sitting under the teaching of a man 180 00:17:26,430 --> 00:17:30,549 who has spent time studying the scriptures, theology, and the work of ministry, 181 00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:34,809 and whose overall fitness for pastoral work has first been tested by others. 182 00:17:35,230 --> 00:17:39,269 I have been tested in the Presbyterian church, as have all of my colleagues. 183 00:17:41,589 --> 00:17:44,230 I don't want to sound like a clerical snob, though. 184 00:17:44,250 --> 00:17:47,910 I know all too well my own shortcomings, though, as a pastor and as a teacher. 185 00:17:47,910 --> 00:17:52,009 And I admit that there are men who may be more gifted and better than I 186 00:17:52,009 --> 00:17:56,109 at preaching and teaching, but maybe who've never had an opportunity 187 00:17:56,109 --> 00:17:58,349 for theological study or ministerial training. 188 00:17:58,710 --> 00:18:02,690 But on balance, surely churches that have the structures and means 189 00:18:02,690 --> 00:18:06,490 to produce a learned and trained ministry will receive better teaching 190 00:18:06,490 --> 00:18:08,470 than those that don't. 191 00:18:09,329 --> 00:18:12,930 In traditional churches such as ours, the Presbyterian, 192 00:18:13,309 --> 00:18:15,970 elders and deacons are also trained and tested. 193 00:18:15,970 --> 00:18:18,430 Again, it doesn't make our church perfect, not by a long shot. 194 00:18:18,509 --> 00:18:19,490 I won't say that. 195 00:18:19,829 --> 00:18:24,250 But the point of all this is that traditional churches have far more resources 196 00:18:24,250 --> 00:18:29,289 available to them for the raising up of qualified leaders and servants of the church. 197 00:18:29,430 --> 00:18:32,970 Furthermore, a home church, because it is by definition unaffiliated 198 00:18:32,970 --> 00:18:37,450 with any one ecclesiastical body, and because it does not have a formal commitment 199 00:18:37,450 --> 00:18:41,849 to any particular body of doctrine, they will not benefit from a developed 200 00:18:41,849 --> 00:18:45,490 and time-tested confession of faith or a system of Christian theology 201 00:18:45,490 --> 00:18:47,750 to ground its teaching and worship. 202 00:18:47,849 --> 00:18:48,970 These things are so valuable. 203 00:18:49,809 --> 00:18:54,470 Both a trained clergy and a shared body of doctrine, that is a confession of faith, 204 00:18:54,529 --> 00:18:58,549 for example, will help prevent what may be a particular vulnerability 205 00:18:58,549 --> 00:18:59,509 with a home church. 206 00:18:59,569 --> 00:19:04,190 And that is a teacher who focuses primarily on his own personal interests 207 00:19:04,190 --> 00:19:07,450 or passions, I don't know how many hobby horses, 208 00:19:08,329 --> 00:19:15,069 and a particular narrow doctrinal foci I have seen over the years 209 00:19:15,069 --> 00:19:16,089 in these kinds of churches. 210 00:19:16,289 --> 00:19:19,410 Indeed, a home church will probably tend to attract very like-minded people 211 00:19:19,410 --> 00:19:23,490 to its fellowship, only magnifying the potential of a teaching ministry 212 00:19:23,490 --> 00:19:27,329 that dwells inordinately on a few choice issues. 213 00:19:27,329 --> 00:19:33,789 Oh, I've seen so many things like demonic deliverance or eschatology 214 00:19:33,789 --> 00:19:36,150 or some such thing as this. 215 00:19:36,230 --> 00:19:40,390 Unless I'm mistaken, for these reasons, it seems less likely that in a home church, 216 00:19:40,890 --> 00:19:44,609 especially in the long run, a believer will hear the whole counsel of God, 217 00:19:44,730 --> 00:19:48,529 less likely, and they will not be exposed to a faithful ministry 218 00:19:48,529 --> 00:19:53,390 of systematic Christ-centered scriptural exposition of the scriptures. 219 00:19:53,390 --> 00:19:57,349 Well, my fourth and final concern is that the family church, 220 00:19:57,529 --> 00:20:02,109 the online church, and the home church may offer a narrow vision 221 00:20:02,109 --> 00:20:03,369 of the kingdom of God. 222 00:20:04,289 --> 00:20:08,309 The family church, the online church, the home church may offer a narrow vision 223 00:20:08,309 --> 00:20:09,809 of the kingdom of God. 224 00:20:10,150 --> 00:20:14,349 Because home churches lack ties with larger ecclesiastical bodies, 225 00:20:14,730 --> 00:20:17,869 it seems inevitable that they will struggle to maintain 226 00:20:17,869 --> 00:20:20,470 and communicate a vision for the kingdom of God 227 00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:23,789 that is broader than the personal concerns 228 00:20:23,789 --> 00:20:27,069 and ties of the people in the home church. 229 00:20:27,430 --> 00:20:30,009 What may develop is a kind of spiritual myopia 230 00:20:30,009 --> 00:20:34,509 in which the work of Christ beyond the small orbit of the home church 231 00:20:34,509 --> 00:20:36,710 gradually fades from view. 232 00:20:37,390 --> 00:20:40,930 Now, although the church I serve is a small church, New Geneva, 233 00:20:41,529 --> 00:20:44,609 we nevertheless belong to a larger denomination. 234 00:20:44,609 --> 00:20:48,630 We have a stake in that denomination's various ministries 235 00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:49,730 at home and abroad. 236 00:20:50,490 --> 00:20:54,490 We pray for Orthodox Presbyterian missionaries throughout the world, 237 00:20:54,589 --> 00:20:56,569 for other churches in our denomination. 238 00:20:57,049 --> 00:20:59,609 We've had speakers visit from other places who are engaged 239 00:20:59,609 --> 00:21:02,829 in different types of ministries, like church historians, 240 00:21:03,089 --> 00:21:06,069 biblical scholars, Christian authors, missionary workers, 241 00:21:06,269 --> 00:21:07,230 pastors, and others, too. 242 00:21:07,730 --> 00:21:10,569 They have all broadened our horizons. 243 00:21:11,069 --> 00:21:15,170 But as for home churches, without that broader vision of Christ's church, 244 00:21:15,170 --> 00:21:19,069 I wonder, will their children grow up with an interest in devoting their lives 245 00:21:19,069 --> 00:21:22,130 to some form of full-time service in the greater church? 246 00:21:22,309 --> 00:21:25,069 You might be depriving your kids of these opportunities. 247 00:21:25,930 --> 00:21:30,349 So, dear listener, if you are a participant in any one of these chimera, 248 00:21:31,630 --> 00:21:34,490 which is an impossible or idle fancy, 249 00:21:34,630 --> 00:21:37,630 a chimera is an impossible or idle fancy. 250 00:21:37,630 --> 00:21:41,450 And if you are a participant in any of these chimera, 251 00:21:41,569 --> 00:21:44,150 known as family church, online church, or house church, 252 00:21:44,450 --> 00:21:49,230 understand that although you may feel that you are in a real church, 253 00:21:49,549 --> 00:21:52,490 it is in reality an illusion. 254 00:21:53,250 --> 00:21:57,289 Even the appeal I often hear regarding the house church movement in China, 255 00:21:57,390 --> 00:22:00,109 for example, cannot apply to you. 256 00:22:00,609 --> 00:22:02,650 The house church movement in China, 257 00:22:02,730 --> 00:22:06,049 I acknowledge, is a real and respected phenomenon 258 00:22:06,049 --> 00:22:07,170 in the history of redemption. 259 00:22:07,970 --> 00:22:12,190 But its emergence and growth is due to completely different forces 260 00:22:12,190 --> 00:22:14,289 than those in the United States of America. 261 00:22:14,990 --> 00:22:17,349 The house church movement in China, for example, 262 00:22:17,730 --> 00:22:19,950 began because of government repression 263 00:22:19,950 --> 00:22:22,990 rather than mere cultural dissatisfaction, 264 00:22:23,109 --> 00:22:24,410 as in the United States. 265 00:22:24,829 --> 00:22:28,630 We have never faced here the kind of persecution and repression 266 00:22:28,630 --> 00:22:30,529 that the church in China has. 267 00:22:30,529 --> 00:22:33,369 And also, whenever possible, note with me, 268 00:22:33,369 --> 00:22:38,309 the house church movement in China has opted for a trained pastorate 269 00:22:38,309 --> 00:22:42,609 to teach an ordained ministry of elders and deacons to serve 270 00:22:42,609 --> 00:22:47,150 and also property in which to worship whenever they have the opportunity. 271 00:22:48,150 --> 00:22:50,849 One shining example, Exhibit A for me, 272 00:22:51,230 --> 00:22:56,970 is Living Stone Church in China's southwest province of Jizhu. 273 00:22:56,970 --> 00:23:00,970 It began, Living Stone Church began in China 274 00:23:00,970 --> 00:23:05,289 as a small church of 20 members in 2009 who rented an apartment. 275 00:23:05,950 --> 00:23:08,509 And all three of the pastors, however, who shepherded that church, 276 00:23:08,569 --> 00:23:10,470 even in its early days, were trained men 277 00:23:10,470 --> 00:23:14,130 who were experienced in Christian ministry before beginning the church. 278 00:23:14,829 --> 00:23:19,410 By 2013, Living Stone Church in China had over 400 members, 279 00:23:19,509 --> 00:23:21,109 and now it has over 1,000. 280 00:23:21,750 --> 00:23:24,910 Living Stone Church now owns its own building, 281 00:23:24,910 --> 00:23:28,789 having some 7,000 square feet of space in which to worship and minister. 282 00:23:28,930 --> 00:23:30,950 They are a house church in name only, 283 00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:32,890 though still officially called a house church. 284 00:23:33,410 --> 00:23:35,349 They are characterized by all the features 285 00:23:35,349 --> 00:23:38,970 that the house church movement in the United States ostensibly eschews. 286 00:23:39,029 --> 00:23:41,910 That is, they have property, trained and ordained ministers, 287 00:23:42,369 --> 00:23:45,329 formal worship, and an official doctrinal statement. 288 00:23:46,069 --> 00:23:48,509 Examples could be multiplied all across China. 289 00:23:48,829 --> 00:23:51,950 In many respects, the churches of China are house churches 290 00:23:51,950 --> 00:23:54,450 precisely because they do not have the opportunities 291 00:23:54,450 --> 00:23:57,490 of denominational churches in the United States. 292 00:23:57,589 --> 00:23:59,589 And if they did, and when they do, 293 00:23:59,950 --> 00:24:04,670 they invariably show up as organized, structured churches like ours, 294 00:24:05,049 --> 00:24:08,109 Living Stone Church being Exhibit A. 295 00:24:08,990 --> 00:24:11,089 All in all, if we are honest, 296 00:24:11,630 --> 00:24:14,089 the family church, the online church, and the house church 297 00:24:14,089 --> 00:24:18,349 are very poor substitutes for the New Testament model of the church. 298 00:24:18,349 --> 00:24:21,109 That is, ordered by definite structure, 299 00:24:21,410 --> 00:24:25,210 led by spirit-ordained ministers, taught by gifted teachers, 300 00:24:25,450 --> 00:24:28,609 and lived in a life of many families and individuals 301 00:24:28,609 --> 00:24:31,130 across a wider spectrum of life. 302 00:24:31,730 --> 00:24:34,809 You will find none of these elements in the home church, 303 00:24:35,410 --> 00:24:37,769 the online church, or the family church. 304 00:24:38,309 --> 00:24:40,170 If you participate in such a church, 305 00:24:40,269 --> 00:24:43,829 I personally, lovingly, and humbly implore you 306 00:24:43,829 --> 00:24:48,109 to come into the broader stream of the life of Christ's church 307 00:24:48,109 --> 00:24:50,630 with all of its flaws, faults, and foibles. 308 00:24:50,789 --> 00:24:53,650 I admit freely, we have our flaws, faults, and foibles. 309 00:24:54,430 --> 00:24:55,190 Come to us. 310 00:24:55,470 --> 00:24:58,309 Come to New Geneva Orthodox Presbyterian Church. 311 00:24:58,630 --> 00:25:00,990 We need you as much as you need us. 312 00:25:01,369 --> 00:25:04,309 But if not us, then find another Bible-believing, 313 00:25:04,670 --> 00:25:06,390 Bible-teaching church in your region. 314 00:25:06,529 --> 00:25:07,650 That's the important thing. 315 00:25:07,849 --> 00:25:09,890 In the long run, you will be blessed. 316 00:25:10,390 --> 00:25:12,529 The church at large will be blessed by you, 317 00:25:12,529 --> 00:25:15,509 and our Savior will be glorified by your presence 318 00:25:15,509 --> 00:25:16,789 in one of these churches. 319 00:25:17,609 --> 00:25:19,309 This has been Pastor David Bass 320 00:25:19,309 --> 00:25:21,670 at New Geneva Orthodox Presbyterian Church. 321 00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:24,809 We at New Geneva have appreciated your listening 322 00:25:24,809 --> 00:25:27,230 to our broadcasts over the years, from week to week. 323 00:25:27,730 --> 00:25:30,029 I've loved speaking with many of you over the years, 324 00:25:30,150 --> 00:25:32,250 meeting you as you've visited our church. 325 00:25:32,430 --> 00:25:32,849 Please do. 326 00:25:32,970 --> 00:25:34,410 Please do that even now, today. 327 00:25:35,009 --> 00:25:37,829 What we have proposed to do is sponsor a time to meet 328 00:25:37,829 --> 00:25:39,750 and fellowship with you during the course of the year. 329 00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:42,549 Once again, we call it a spaghetti fellowship dinner. 330 00:25:42,829 --> 00:25:44,849 We have it on the last Wednesday of every month 331 00:25:44,849 --> 00:25:49,670 at 5 p.m., except for this coming Wednesday, January 25th, 332 00:25:49,670 --> 00:25:52,390 owing to a family commitment that I have on that day. 333 00:25:52,529 --> 00:25:55,289 But we have rescheduled that spaghetti fellowship dinner 334 00:25:55,289 --> 00:25:58,890 for Wednesday, February 22nd at 5 p.m. 335 00:25:59,130 --> 00:25:59,910 here at the church. 336 00:26:00,029 --> 00:26:03,369 Please set this date aside on your calendar 337 00:26:03,369 --> 00:26:06,009 for meeting with us and fellowshipping with us. 338 00:26:06,009 --> 00:26:08,170 This has been Pastor David Bass 339 00:26:08,170 --> 00:26:10,750 at New Geneva Orthodox Presbyterian Church. 340 00:26:11,089 --> 00:26:14,210 We meet for holy worship Sunday, 10 a.m. 341 00:26:14,410 --> 00:26:17,529 at 101 4th Street on the corner of 4th and Boulevard. 342 00:26:18,029 --> 00:26:22,430 Call us at 523-0196 or check out our websites, 343 00:26:22,930 --> 00:26:27,910 newgenevaopc.org, and then our new website, 344 00:26:28,250 --> 00:26:31,130 omnisprotestas.org, where we have cataloged 345 00:26:31,130 --> 00:26:32,589 our past radio messages. 346 00:26:33,130 --> 00:26:41,789 That's omnisprotestas, O-M-N-I-S-DASH-P-O-T-E-S-T-A-S.org. 347 00:26:41,789 --> 00:26:48,710 O-M-N-I-S-DASH-P-O-T-E-S-T-A-S.org. 348 00:26:49,029 --> 00:26:49,930 God bless you.