1 00:00:04,660 --> 00:00:10,400 Greetings. This is Pastor David Bass at New Geneva Orthodox Presbyterian Church with a 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:16,100 moment of truth, where we challenge you to think through an important issue of life and faith. And 3 00:00:16,100 --> 00:00:23,899 today, I want to ask you for consideration, with whom do we as Americans have more in common, 4 00:00:24,339 --> 00:00:33,799 Europe or Russia? Now, a few weeks ago, I made the case that in the conflict between Ukraine and 5 00:00:33,799 --> 00:00:40,899 Russia, Russia has the greater claim to the contested region of Crimea than does Ukraine. 6 00:00:41,420 --> 00:00:49,880 That is just a historical reality. And that should be kept in mind by our own diplomats when we take 7 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:57,299 sides in the Ukraine war. But today, I want to do a comparison and contrast between what we share in 8 00:00:57,299 --> 00:01:04,379 common with these two respective combatants and where we differ. And it's enlightening, too. The 9 00:01:04,379 --> 00:01:13,180 difference between our association and attachments with the European Union and Russia. Well, for 10 00:01:13,180 --> 00:01:23,459 example, in Russia and America, there is the issue of religion. Now, as a pastor, this is the chief 11 00:01:23,459 --> 00:01:31,219 area of comparison for me, since politics is downstream from culture, and culture is downstream from 12 00:01:31,219 --> 00:01:38,540 religion. And even then, religion is downstream from God himself, I would posit. Well, at first glance, 13 00:01:38,659 --> 00:01:47,000 it seems that America has deep roots in the religious traditions of Europe, and it does. We are inheritors 14 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:54,280 of the Western tradition, which began with the early small-c Catholic Church of the second and third 15 00:01:54,280 --> 00:02:03,319 centuries. And over time, divisions appeared over various doctrinal issues, such as that in 1048 A.D., 16 00:02:03,319 --> 00:02:10,719 where the Eastern Orthodox Church, centered in Constantinople, which is modern Istanbul, split off 17 00:02:10,719 --> 00:02:18,740 from the Roman Catholic Church, which was centered in Rome. And America is uniquely formed and shaped by 18 00:02:18,740 --> 00:02:25,539 the Reformation of the 16th century. Our entire denominational structure, for example, including 19 00:02:25,539 --> 00:02:32,500 my own, the Orthodox Presbyterian Church, can be traced to roots deep in the Presbyterian movement 20 00:02:32,500 --> 00:02:39,280 on the British Isles during the 16th and 17th centuries. And we can say the same about every other 21 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:46,520 denomination on American soil, excluding the Eastern Orthodox or the Russian Orthodox Churches, 22 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:52,520 of course, that they were shaped and formed by other religious movements on the European continent. 23 00:02:53,219 --> 00:03:02,199 So, when it comes to taking sides in Ukraine-Russia conflict, in which the European Union and NATO is 24 00:03:02,199 --> 00:03:09,199 lined up with Ukraine against Russia, it seems that the religious element favors Ukraine. 25 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:16,360 Right? Don't we have more in common with Europe than Russia here? Well, all other things being 26 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:24,000 equal, I would have to say yes, but I can't stop there. I have to ask, what in the world has happened 27 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:32,259 to the faith of Europeans? What is the state of religious faith there? Is there any remnant of the 28 00:03:32,259 --> 00:03:37,960 Christian faith besides beautiful ancient cathedrals? And the answer comes back, for me anyway, 29 00:03:38,340 --> 00:03:46,960 Europe knows nothing of Christ anymore. In fact, according to the European Academy on Religion and 30 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:55,520 Culture, a revival of paganism in Europe is taking place. And that academy says they boast a substantial 31 00:03:55,520 --> 00:04:00,800 following, numbering at least in the hundreds of thousands, potentially extending into the low 32 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:09,060 millions, unquote. Cited from the European Academy on Religion and Culture. Now, paganism disappeared from 33 00:04:09,060 --> 00:04:16,360 Europe during the Christian era, although modern pagans, they call them neo-pagans now, they maintain it never 34 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:23,019 completely disappeared, but merely went underground. But today, the old Norse gods of the Vikings are making a 35 00:04:23,019 --> 00:04:30,000 comeback in Iceland and Denmark and Sweden, and outright Satanism and Lucifer worship are gaining 36 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:41,500 popularity and becoming increasingly bold. Oh, for example, the 2023 Olympics notoriously began and ended 37 00:04:41,500 --> 00:04:50,139 with tributes to Lucifer, complete with a desecrating Last Supper at the beginning and a descending Satan 38 00:04:50,139 --> 00:04:58,019 from heaven from heaven at the closing ceremony. Well, we can also go back to the dedication of the 39 00:04:58,019 --> 00:05:07,120 Swiss Gothard Base Tunnel, which is also nicknamed the Tunnel. That dedication was also openly, blatantly 40 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:17,339 a satanic ceremony that clearly identifies Europe as in the spiritual grip of Lucifer. Many feel that Europe is 41 00:05:17,339 --> 00:05:26,019 not only post-Christian, which everybody would agree, but now completely neo-pagan. We have nothing in 42 00:05:26,019 --> 00:05:34,579 common spiritually with Europe anymore, unless America hopes to follow in her footsteps. However, just the 43 00:05:34,579 --> 00:05:43,339 opposite is happening in Russia. There is a revival of Christianity after years of dormant spirituality. 44 00:05:43,339 --> 00:05:53,759 Victoria Smolkin, in her book, Sacred Space is Never Empty. I like that title. Victoria Smolkin's book is 45 00:05:53,759 --> 00:06:02,980 entitled Sacred Space is Never Empty, a history of Soviet atheism. Well, Victoria observes, and I quote her, 46 00:06:03,399 --> 00:06:12,040 in Russia, there is a religious revival happening. Orthodox Christianity is thriving after enduring a 70-year 47 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:21,040 period of atheistic Soviet rule. In 1991, just after the collapse of the USSR, about two-thirds of Russians 48 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:32,379 claimed no religious affiliation. Today, 71% of Russians identify as Orthodox. One can now see priests giving 49 00:06:32,379 --> 00:06:40,300 sermons on television. They can encounter religious processions in St. Petersburg and watch citizens 50 00:06:40,300 --> 00:06:49,240 lining up for holy water in Moscow. Unquote. Well, several religious leaders have cultivated closer ties 51 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:55,959 with American evangelicals with American evangelicals, too, seeing common ground on important issues. Russian 52 00:06:55,959 --> 00:07:05,959 Orthodox hierarchs, Patriarch Kirill and Metropolitan Hilarion, in particular, have reached out to evangelical 53 00:07:05,959 --> 00:07:12,819 leaders in America, and they have found willing partners. And that common ground includes, for example, 54 00:07:12,819 --> 00:07:22,120 traditional Christian values. Or the building up of the family. Or staunch opposition to gender confusion 55 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:30,079 and abortion. And then the ending of persecution of Christians in the West, especially in Ukraine. 56 00:07:30,500 --> 00:07:37,240 Ukraine persecutes Christians, dear listener. Do you want to be on the side of a nation that persecutes 57 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:44,160 Christians? All of these things, the West hates. All of these things, the Russian people and her 58 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:53,519 leadership love and defend. And the Russian government has fostered this revival, seeing it as benefiting 59 00:07:53,519 --> 00:08:00,339 the greater interests of Russia, too. Perhaps chief among those in the government who feel this way 60 00:08:00,339 --> 00:08:11,019 is none other than President Vladimir Putin. Oh, Hitler. Oh, the devil incarnate. No, Vladimir Putin embraces 61 00:08:11,019 --> 00:08:20,060 his Orthodox faith. His spiritual biography is really fascinating, too. He was born in St. Petersburg, 62 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:28,060 which was Leningrad under the Soviet system. And Putin grew up during the siege of Leningrad. 63 00:08:28,060 --> 00:08:34,500 He was baptized as a baby in the Russian Orthodox Church. And he was raised by a fervent, 64 00:08:34,740 --> 00:08:44,360 believing mother. Putin saw himself as a true Russian patriot. And he joined the KGB and worked in Moscow 65 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:52,960 and especially in Germany. Now, Putin was terribly disillusioned with the fall of the Soviet Union in 66 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:58,000 1989. That affected him deeply. He saw it as an embarrassment to Russia. 67 00:08:58,059 --> 00:09:04,340 Many observers see Putin's attempt to assert hegemony over former Soviet territories, 68 00:09:04,740 --> 00:09:14,720 including Ukraine, as not so subtle moves to rebuild the Soviet Union. Well, Putin worked his way 69 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:22,419 through the Byzantine path of Russian politics to be elected president in 2000, a position he has 70 00:09:22,419 --> 00:09:29,620 tenaciously held on to, excepting a four-year period when it was held by one of his subordinates, 71 00:09:30,220 --> 00:09:38,440 Medvedev. Otherwise, Putin has maintained an iron grip on the presidency of Russia. Now, Putin has 72 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:46,639 repeatedly affirmed his own personal religious faith. He prays daily in a small chapel next to the 73 00:09:46,639 --> 00:09:53,720 presidential office. And for many years, Putin has certainly had a close relationship with 74 00:09:53,720 --> 00:10:08,639 Archimandrite Tikhon, who is the father superior of Stravetsky Monastery. Even during the period of 75 00:10:08,639 --> 00:10:15,519 official Soviet atheism, Putin continued to affirm and practice his religious faith as taught him in the 76 00:10:15,519 --> 00:10:22,559 Russian Orthodox Church. So, despite all of the criticism hurled at him over the last few years, 77 00:10:23,019 --> 00:10:31,840 Hitler, dictator, communist, no, Putin has consistently pursued a policy that champions Russia and her 78 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:40,159 values, Christian values, as articulated by his own Russian Orthodox Church. And he has done so 79 00:10:40,159 --> 00:10:48,200 in direct contradiction to the tradition of atheistic Marxism. Oh, this is something that 80 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:57,000 American Christians must get through their thick, rapture-obsessed heads. Russia is not the nation of 81 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:03,980 Armageddon. Russia will not provide the godless hordes of soldiers who will have their eyes melted from their 82 00:11:03,980 --> 00:11:11,879 sockets in a single moment of nuclear destruction at the last day. That is silly nonsense. In fact, a case can be 83 00:11:11,879 --> 00:11:21,500 made that Russia, as she is now constituted, is more righteous and devoted to Christ than is the United States of 84 00:11:21,500 --> 00:11:29,500 America. I would assert that. The larger point is that faithful American Christians have far more in 85 00:11:29,500 --> 00:11:38,159 common with their Russian counterparts than with the godless Luciferian European Union, and even with our 86 00:11:38,159 --> 00:11:46,320 own godless Luciferian federal government, and most state governments, for that matter. We have, as 87 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:56,960 Christians, more in common with our brothers and sisters in Russia than we do here or in Europe. Secondly, we 88 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:05,299 must also compare and contrast the United States of America with Russia and the European Union in terms of 89 00:12:05,299 --> 00:12:15,379 cultural values. Cultural values. Let's look at those. That is family, the sexes, sports, entertainment, that 90 00:12:15,379 --> 00:12:23,220 kind of thing. Now, as a corollary to the religious commonalities, it is necessary to point out that 91 00:12:23,220 --> 00:12:30,580 Russia is moving towards a more conservative, traditional set of cultural values. In fact, speaking of 92 00:12:30,580 --> 00:12:37,320 Vladimir Putin, he officially called for the promotion of, and I quote, traditional Russian spiritual and moral 93 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:45,120 values, unquote. And he wants this to be broadcast internationally. The Russian courts and government have 94 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:54,000 followed suit in encouraging traditional values and sanctioning corrupt Western values. For example, the 95 00:12:54,000 --> 00:13:03,600 Russian Supreme Court outlawed the so-called LGBT movement as extremist, and Putin has rightly characterized the 96 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:14,399 West as satanic, coming right out and calling us in the West satanic, accusing us of trying to undermine 97 00:13:14,399 --> 00:13:23,279 Russia by exporting liberal ideologies. And we have. We've tried to do that. In 2013, the state Duma forbade 98 00:13:23,279 --> 00:13:31,679 by law the equation of gay relationships with heterosexual relationships. And Putin has articulated on 99 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:38,399 several occasions Russia's opposition to gender transition, whether boy to girl or girl to boy. 100 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:46,080 And in a speech to the Russian parliament in 2014, Putin said, and I quote, our priorities are healthy 101 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:53,840 families and a healthy nation, traditional values that we have inherited from our ancestors, together 102 00:13:53,840 --> 00:14:03,919 with a focus on the future, unquote. And there is also a little known document from 2011, which details 103 00:14:03,919 --> 00:14:12,799 17 values that the Russian Orthodox Church and the Russian government hold forth in common. 104 00:14:12,799 --> 00:14:21,440 And I quote from that document. It says, basic values, the foundation of national unity. And it was 105 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:28,799 created by the initiative of the Russian Orthodox Church. And it defines 17 values, both at the individual 106 00:14:28,799 --> 00:14:35,279 and the state level and the state level. For example, faith, that's right at the top. So religious faith is 107 00:14:35,279 --> 00:14:42,000 right at the top for Russia. And then justice as well. We could use justice administered in our nation, 108 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:51,279 for that matter. And then they go on to articulate 15 others, peace and freedom, unity, morality, 109 00:14:51,279 --> 00:15:04,399 dignity, honesty, patriotism, solidarity, compassion for those in need, respect for one's culture and national 110 00:15:04,399 --> 00:15:14,399 traditions, family, and hard work and willingness to make sacrifices. 17 values that we, as American 111 00:15:14,399 --> 00:15:25,519 Christians, share in common with Russia and their Orthodox Christian Church. But in stark, ugly contrast, 112 00:15:25,519 --> 00:15:32,960 are the admitted so-called cultural values of the European Union, with whom we ostensibly identify. 113 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:41,440 The European Commission's official website, for example, insists that Europe is now a quote, 114 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:50,639 unquote, post-ethnic culture. Buzzwords. Europe is now a post-ethnic culture, according to the European 115 00:15:50,639 --> 00:15:58,960 Commission, in which all ethnicities are now folded into one, especially with the influx of millions and 116 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:08,639 millions of Islamic migrants and Muslim migrants in the last few decades. According to the European 117 00:16:08,639 --> 00:16:15,039 Union, traditional European Union, traditional European cultures must move away from what they call our 118 00:16:15,039 --> 00:16:22,080 ethno-ethno, excuse me, ethno-national understanding of culture and diversity, unquote. Buzzwords again. 119 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:30,799 But it means that the French must unlearn Frenchness, the British must unlearn Britishness, 120 00:16:30,799 --> 00:16:38,559 and the Germans must unlearn what it means to be German. Europe is post-Christian and must repent 121 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:45,919 of its past efforts to Christianize its former colonies, according to this website, which was in 122 00:16:45,919 --> 00:16:55,360 reality a form of oppression and control. Yes, all of the European ways of life are rooted in evil 123 00:16:55,360 --> 00:17:05,920 colonialism, and they now must engage in what the website calls the decolonization of knowledge. 124 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:13,119 Did you know that the Western tradition of teaching and learning is a colonized form of knowledge? 125 00:17:13,839 --> 00:17:20,640 Europe must move away from deficiency models, as the website calls it, of culture and values. 126 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:29,039 Oh, on and on, we could go. Yet, at the very same time that Europeans are being shamed into giving up 127 00:17:29,039 --> 00:17:37,039 their heritage and values, all the Muslim migrants who have taken over large swaths of the continent, 128 00:17:37,039 --> 00:17:44,480 entrenching their own and establishing Muslim enclaves throughout Europe. Well, apparently, 129 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:49,519 they have not heard about the supposed post-ethnic culture of their new homes, have they? 130 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:56,880 A little-known paper published by the Defense Department for its long-term strategy group, 131 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:04,240 and that paper was published back in 2007, forecasted precisely what Europe is experiencing 132 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:09,599 now. And I quote from that document, they say, a comparative study of Christian and Muslim 133 00:18:09,599 --> 00:18:16,319 immigrants to Germany establishes that the integration of Muslims is substantially harder 134 00:18:16,319 --> 00:18:24,480 than the integration of Christians. Although the integration of Spaniards and Yugoslavs in Germany 135 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:32,079 was prolonged and difficult by American standards, it nonetheless took place. Muslims experienced 136 00:18:32,079 --> 00:18:40,319 problems forming an ethnic identity in a country where the dominant religion is not Islam. Very 137 00:18:40,319 --> 00:18:47,039 important. The paper goes on to say, Christian immigrants, by contrast, were able to take advantage 138 00:18:47,039 --> 00:18:53,599 of the religious background they share with the vast majority of Germans to integrate. Unquote. 139 00:18:54,079 --> 00:19:01,599 Muslims experienced problems forming ethnic identities in a country where the dominant religion is not Islam. 140 00:19:01,599 --> 00:19:09,599 Did you hear that? All over Europe, the experience is the same. Muslims refuse to assimilate. 141 00:19:09,599 --> 00:19:16,000 They refuse even to integrate. Instead, they work to dominate every culture into which they are 142 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:22,400 introduced. There are well over 50 million Muslims in Europe, and now there is no sign that they are 143 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:28,880 integrating into the modern liberal cultures of the respective European Union countries to which they've come. 144 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:35,200 Instead, they are making true what Gaddafi predicted 20 years ago when he said, 145 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:42,880 we have 50 million Muslims in Europe. There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe, 146 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:50,880 without swords, without guns, without conquest. We'll turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades. Unquote. 147 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:58,880 Ah, lo and behold, dear listener, what history always teaches us. Islam is a theocratic religion 148 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:07,119 bent on conquering the world, just as Muhammad exhorts in the Quran. Despite what the liberal European Union 149 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:14,160 parliament executives say among themselves at their cocktail parties, where, as one member quipped, 150 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:20,480 and he said, I am perplexed by the immigrants' unwillingness to integrate into our prosperous, 151 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:28,960 welcoming culture. Oh, naivete in the extreme. History of past dealings with Islam and the Ottoman Empire 152 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:35,599 in particular would have informed these people of the near conquering of Europe on numerous occasions in the past, 153 00:20:35,599 --> 00:20:41,920 if not for the bravery and determination of men like Charles Martel or Stephen Sobieski. 154 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:50,000 I encourage you to look up those two men. Great histories. But that is part of colonial thinking. 155 00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:59,440 Europeans must divest themselves of while Islam marches on. Italian Monsignor Carlo Liberati 156 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:06,319 inadvertently spoke frankly about this in an interview. And that Monsignor said, 157 00:21:06,319 --> 00:21:13,759 in 10 years, we will all be Muslims because of our stupidity. Unquote. He's at least honest about it. 158 00:21:14,319 --> 00:21:22,160 Europe's evil, decadent culture is no match for militant Islam. And the United States has little, 159 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:28,480 if anything, in common with present-day Europe either. Ah, number three, 160 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:34,640 we must also consider the plan for the economies of our respective countries. Just when America is 161 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:40,079 making the shift from war and plundering of the American people to a prosperous peacetime 162 00:21:40,079 --> 00:21:47,039 economy under Trump, well, Europe is committed to what the European Commission calls a war economy 163 00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:55,279 mode. Yes, a war economy mode is for Europe now. And they see this as the basis for their economy 164 00:21:55,279 --> 00:22:03,440 for the next 20 years. In reality, dear listener, it has always been the long-term strategic plan 165 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:13,279 for the European Union and NATO to engage Russia in a decades-long protracted conventional war that they 166 00:22:13,279 --> 00:22:20,720 calculate will bleed Russia dry and defeat her. Russia could then be broken up into several discrete 167 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:29,039 nations, which would be under the control of the European Union and NATO. In fact, the EU foreign 168 00:22:29,039 --> 00:22:37,839 policy chief recently stated it quite baldly. And I quote her, she said, Russia's defeat is not a bad 169 00:22:37,839 --> 00:22:44,880 thing because there are many different nations as part of Russia. And she concludes, and I quote, 170 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:51,440 if you have small nations, it's not a bad thing if the big power becomes much smaller, unquote. 171 00:22:52,319 --> 00:23:00,799 So, we see what the intent is and how evil is that. Nations supposedly build armies for defense 172 00:23:00,799 --> 00:23:07,119 against aggression. The European Union wants to build armies in order to conquer and subdue other 173 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:14,799 nations, Russia being first in the crosshairs. And the war in Ukraine is only the first strategic step 174 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:20,559 towards that end. So, make no mistake about this, dear listener. America has no business aligning 175 00:23:20,559 --> 00:23:27,680 itself with the European Union and NATO, which makes war not to defend itself, but to sustain an 176 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:36,000 economy and take territory. Well, we must also compare and contrast the erosion of personal liberties in 177 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:44,079 Europe and America as compared to Russia. Now, as J.D. Vance pointed out recently, freedom of speech 178 00:23:44,079 --> 00:23:50,480 is in retreat in Europe. In fact, he went on to say that the biggest threat to Europe is not Russia, 179 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:58,079 it's not China, but rather, it's withdrawal from some of the most fundamental values. Values 180 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:06,400 formerly shared with the United States. Now, all over Europe, people are being thrown in jail for social 181 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:14,480 media posts, for example. 17 people in Germany were thrown in jail for posting supposed anti-Semite hate 182 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:21,279 speech. Two Brits were jailed for supposedly stirring up racial hatred online. And of course, Tommy 183 00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:27,839 Robinson, look into this character, he's great. Tommy Robinson, a long-time free speech advocate and a 184 00:24:27,839 --> 00:24:34,400 campaigner for immigration reform in Britain. He was recently released from prison where he was serving a 185 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:42,640 sentence for allegedly maligning a Syrian immigrant. Also in Britain, a rape victim was sentenced to a 186 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:50,240 longer prison sentence than her rapist when she called him a disgraceful rapist pig online. In fact, 187 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:56,079 the rapist ended up serving no jail time whatsoever because of his tender age. He was a young man 188 00:24:56,079 --> 00:25:04,160 younger than 21. Well, anyway, these are just a few samples of the panopticon control that's being 189 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:11,599 exerted all over Europe and fully intended for America as well, for that matter. So, dear listener, 190 00:25:11,599 --> 00:25:20,400 it is legitimate to ask whether we share any longer a mutual heritage and way of life with the nations of 191 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:27,680 the European Union and NATO, or whether we have more in common with our old nemesis, that is Russia. 192 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:34,400 Right? I grew up under the cloud of nuclear war, the threat of nuclear war with Russia, 193 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:43,119 and I have seen not only America, but I've seen Russia transform over the decades since. And I never 194 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:50,720 would have believed it, I never would have thought it, but it is my increasing conclusion that we now 195 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:58,079 have far more in common with a conservative traditionalist Russia than we do with a radical 196 00:25:58,079 --> 00:26:08,400 satanic Luciferian Europe any longer. The potential for both good relations with Russia and with America 197 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:14,880 are great, and great things could indeed happen. Consider these things, dear listener, as we come 198 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:24,000 to the issue of both war and peace concerning America and old mother Russia. This has been Pastor 199 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:30,400 David Bass at New Geneva Orthodox Presbyterian Church. New Geneva meets for worship on Sunday 200 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:37,039 at 10 a.m. at 101 4th Street on the corner of 4th and Boulevard. And you can call us for more 201 00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:53,839 information or some feedback on what you've just heard at area code 208-523-0196. That's 208-523-0196.